Help with chandeliers please!

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Hello Houzzers!
We could really use some help picking out two chandeliers for our open concept entry/living/bar/music/dining room! I'm sure we need lots of other design help as well, but this is our most pressing issue and your help would be greatly appreciated! We are slowly updating and are looking for new fixtures for the entry and dining room. Any suggestions? Thank you so so much!!! The photos are of the entry/stairs, the dining room, and the bar across from the entry way chandelier .

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Flo Mangan

7 år siden

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this is a unit you could install over the mirror, and too that wall to put glasses on and make this look more like a bar setting. I will post the shelving unit. Now of course, I don't know the measurements, but this gives you the concept. You could have someone make it for you to fit the space precisely. Depending on where the mirror problem is, it might just get covered, or disguised so you can leave it up. I hate to say it, but I would also replace the sink with perhaps a copper one so it looks more "bar like". Of course, these are just ideas for you. When I look at a space, I can't seem to turn off the "designer" and contribute to improving everything! lol Take it in that vein please.

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Flo Mangan
7 år siden

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This has a carpet runner too, but has travertine tile. I hope this helps you with your decision.
Andrei
7 år siden
Would it be painted over the white, or sanded down to the oak and then stained and lacquered?
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Flo Mangan
7 år siden
That is good question. To do it right, sanded and stained and finish coated would be best. But you could just paint it also. Just depends on level of effort and cost. And desired final outcomes.
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
Pick your focal point, in this case i would say lets see past the entry light and zero in on a fab dining fixture, draw the eye back, i would hang the stairwell fixture higher let the eye go back.
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Andrei
7 år siden
Nice idea!!!
Andrei
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Savoy House Penrose 12 Light Foyer Lantern, Polished Nickel · Mere information
Andrei
7 år siden
Check out this sketch: http://www.houzz.com/sketches/1185592
Andrei
7 år siden
What do you think of this one?
Andrei
7 år siden
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Downbytheriver: Can you tell us what the Foyer chandelier is in your mockup? The dining room chandelier you chose might be too romantic/traditional for us and I think we need to brighten that room up, it feels dark
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Flo Mangan
7 år siden
On the sketch/chandelier, the shape is nice for your space but the style and finish don't say "updated" to me. I think you need gold/champagne finish and more "concert hall" look to "invite" guests into your space for lovely evening of music, food and fun!
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
savoy house, I dont have the # on hand, but they have great options for you it needs to be the right size, im guesssing the one thre is about 24in long? so i would say 20'' would be great, or a bit shorter.
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
you are choosing VERY traditional entry piece. So I just thought that is what you like. Along with the railing and foreground chair and table a gold finish would be good. and please "update" by not haning it at eye level lol.

Here is a more modern yet traditional look that could work. (ENTRY)

http://www.ballarddesigns.com/carriage-house-chandeliers/lighting/chandeliers-pendants/167657?isCrossSell=true&strategy=266&gtmPageName=May%20We%20Suggest-PDP
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Flo Mangan
7 år siden
The challenge in the entry is "what do you want the entry to be?" Formal and modern, or traditional and more casual? With your dining room desires and your musical pieces I believe this entry deserves a more "formal" treatment in perhaps a transitional vein. Keeping the size proper will be very important as we have discussed. Hanging it at the proper level once selected is second challenge but that is easy. So, need to decide direction so we can be of more help. Try looking at the shadesoflight.com website. They have a variety of pieces and perhaps it will help you focus on what you like and maybe what you don't like so you get more specifically sure of what you want. Finish is also a question, because if the stairs stay white, then that would drive a darker color so it shows up. If you decide to redo the railing in a dark brown, then the champagne golds or even aged golds would be really lovely. Then of course, there is budget. I would prefer you wait and get the exact right piece, than decide just to decide and then find you are living with something less than optimum. Lighting really defines spaces especially in entries.
Andrei
7 år siden
Downbytheriver: when you say we chose a "VERY traditional entry piece", what are you referring to, the harp?
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RL Relocation LLC
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No, I am referring to the entry fixture you posted, also the decor in the home is traditional. The flow of the house is traditional too. Not to say it could not become transitional... The brass chair has a modern edge, apart from that most of the decor has a traditional feeling.
Andrei
7 år siden
Flo, about the brown bannister, in those examples the houses have other browns to match the bannister: either brown wood flooring,a brown door, brown accents in the tiles and brown stairs or other rooms off the foyer travertine that use brown flooring. My hesitation comes from my fear the dark bannister would stick out like a sore thumb with nothing to balance it or relieve it. The entire house is travertine and the entire house honey/cherry cabinets all the same throughout. As you said, the lines of the house are traditional, built in the mid 80s so we want to match the house structure at the same time many of our updates have been modern or transitional, we like a clean look: the granite/tile/cabinets and the kitchen fixtures. We tend to like 'classy'/'upscale' without being over the top gaudy or too romantic and since our instruments are very old (Art Deco era) we tend to be influenced by that but don't want to look 'antique-y'
Thanks
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
post some pictures of the rest of the house, the dining room itself... let us have a taste of your taste. matching the house to the 80's ?
Andrei
7 år siden
Thanks, I will post some pictures of the rest of the house there are pictures of the dining room itself above in the thread. The house is very 80s in examples of the wet bar at the entry, the vaulted ceilings, clerestory windows, the geometric lines and odd nooks or outcropping of the wall area. It makes it hard for us to decorate and make it fit, we don't want the house to read 80s but we want our style to seem like it fits with the housing structure in its proportions. None of the windows are trimmed, we have baseboard but no top molding.
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Flo Mangan
7 år siden
You instruments are beautiful and wood toned, so that can be part of the "connection" to the wood railing. But this is totally up to you. The white to me just looks cheap and DYI so I would change it. You don't want to bring back the oak, I understand that, but more class on the stairs would be helpful. Expresso color would enhance the wood of the Harp and bring the contrast needed in the space. You have to consider all the elements in your space for sure, so more photos would be helpful. I have found another fixture but it might be too contemporary for what you want. But I'll post it anyway.
JK061: Mantoan Hand-Blown Clear Glass Chandelier, 18" W X 28” D X 60" H · Mere information
With the black railing this would be stunning. It has the right shape and look for musical venue!
Andrei
7 år siden
Thanks Flo! It's a beautiful piece, unfortunately the weight 80lbs might be too much for our ceiling and it's out of stock anyway.
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
http://www.bonanza.com/listings/JK061-Mantoan-Hand-Blown-Pressed-Glass-Pendant-Chandelier-40-67-H-1-390-/299256004?goog_pla=1&gpid=173784728461&keyword=&goog_pla=1&pos=1o1&ad_type=pla&gclid=CjwKEAiAkuLDBRCRguCgvITww0YSJAAHrpf-3oN5R4CpwbAomo_uU_UHPsUtb7eXdP6nQHAXMo5JzxoC3Z3w_wcB
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
if you want to hang a heavy fixture you get what is called a fan brace box, it will support a lot of weight. just an fyi, because if you go large in the dining it will need one too...
Andrei
7 år siden
This is great, thanks for sending that link. I love it! I'm still not sure about the black, but nice to see that it comes in different finishes. The one we have now is basically transparent besides the brass candelabra inside the glass pendent. We thought for a while of just painting the brass silver, but wanted something nicer. I was initially worried that the black would add too much contrast or draw the eye too much. Would a chrome or brushed nickel look good? I like that it ties in with the instruments, but at the same time the foyer/living room isn't necessarily a "concert hall", I'm a professional musician and I teach in the living room, but don't perform recitals there, I want it to be elegant but also with a feeling of home. I think this one could work, but I don't think Amy would go for the black. Maybe we're totally wrong and the solid black rail and light fixture with gold accents would look amazing. We also know that look is trending right now and don't want to fall too much into what's in style at the moment, would rather have a timeless setup (if possible)
Andrei
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Maybe I would feel more comfortable if our piano were an ebony finish, but it's a flame mahogany. I thought it was a beautiful wood when I purchased the instrument, but it really threw off the house. I think an ebony would have been a better choice.
Andrei
7 år siden
Fixture above kitchen island and fixture above breakfast nook
Andrei
7 år siden
Current fixture in entry foyer
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
That fixture is timeless!
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
but now that i see what you have...........
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Flo Mangan
7 år siden
downbytheriver, I posted the "ball" ones a while back and I do think that is a really good option for them too.
lulu
7 år siden
My 2 cents, I agree with Flo about black post and railing on the stairway. Not necessarily the risers or steps.
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Flo Mangan
7 år siden

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Here is a black railing with the glass ball type chandelier and it looks like stair treads similar to yours.
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Andrei
7 år siden
One more thing to consider, the fixture doesn't attach to an attic, it attaches directly to a vaulted roof, the electrician says a heavy fixture might damage the roof structure, also those platings at the top of the fixture look like they are made for a horizontal ceiling, not to be hung at a 45 angle
Andrei
7 år siden
Example of foyer chandelier attachment
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
those fixtures are light, also LED so you don't have to try and change bulbs. the glass is small and light, I have dealt with the ones I posted personally. You can get the ET2 ones in a couple size.

all you do is adjust the height of each one to hang straight.
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Lumar Interiors
7 år siden
Attached here are a few designs of ours with chandeliers we have used. It might be useful to look at them and see if you like any.
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Andrei
7 år siden
Lumar Interiors: I love the first one!
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Home Interiors with Ease
7 år siden
You really need to remove that sink and faucet in the bar area..it looks like it belongs in a bathroom....you need to add a chrome bar sink with small bar sink goose neck faucet....you have a lovely home but I strongly suggest you change out the wet bar sink.......if you are trying to go more transitional/modern I would switch out both foyer and dining fixtures and get two that complement each other...

Entry light idea

Dining room light idea

Bar sink suggestion
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
is it more then a 45 degree pitch?
Andrei
7 år siden
No
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Flo Mangan
7 år siden
There are specific devices to hang fixtures and if a fixture doesn't weight 300 lbs, the structure should not be a problem. The electrician should be aware of the long arm brackets that can be slipped into the opening to spread the weight and it should be a no brainer for someone who knows what they are doing.
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Flo Mangan
7 år siden
The Murano glass one weighs 80 lbs, so that is not minimal, but not huge either. Most entry type fixtures will weigh 30+ lbs.
Andrei
7 år siden
I know everyone is saying the wet bar doesn't work and needs to change, but honestly we love the look of the sink, granite and cabinets that are there so how can we make that work keeping those in place? This area is NOT in the kitchen area otherwise it would be different, it is in the entry foyer off the front living room just as you walk in so we don't want it to look "bar-bar" like here is all of our hard alcohol on display lol. We want it to look comforting, and inviting, welcoming, and relaxing, but not like a "powder room" as you say. We don't like the idea of heavy black and copper, we like the relaxing sea glass and teal vibe. We're not sure why the "vessel sink" can't work. Perhaps we just need seaglass shelving and decorative wine glass storage and flowers instead of the large mirror, although the mirror makes the alcove look bigger and brighter. Here's a picture of a wet bar that also uses a vessel sink and doesn't look too alcohol/bar: https://www.houzz.com/photos/2016-st-jude-dream-home-farmhouse-home-bar-new-orleans-phvw-vp~59430690
Andrei
7 år siden
Current entryway wet bar
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Flo Mangan
7 år siden
If you put some shelves and glasses there it would help. But as you know, I think this looks off in this spot, but I get that you love it. Maybe it is because almost every builder showroom has had this look in their women's bathrooms that is clouding my view. Just too bathroom for me. The sink in your photo btw is a shell sink that is much lower in profile, and the cabinetry around this is very different than what you have, plus the wine bottle hex's and wine glass storage devices. All these details speak to "bar". But we have traveled this road already so ... your call.
Andrei
7 år siden
Wet bar
Andrei
7 år siden
Thanks Flo, I appreciate your comments
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
its off because it looks like, "why is there a sink in the hallway?" and it looks like a bathroom sink not a wet bar. So what about adding the shelves to the mirror back and putting something that looks like a service area, not a strange place for a sink... not trying to be harsh. it honestly looks like a bath vanity in the hall.
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RL Relocation LLC
7 år siden
you could make it a coffee station rather than a bar.
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Art of the Garden
7 år siden
https://www.houzz.com/products/spark-hanging-chandelier-gold-prvw-vr~42597944

https://www.houzz.com/products/kira-home-orbits-18-4-light-sphere-orb-pendant-chandelier-brushed-nickel-prvw-vr~68088260
jani
6 år siden
I know this is a long ago post ,but looking at dining rooms for myself. I love the idea of black or dark brown railing...it would be gorgeous with the entry chandelier!

The bar ..I was thinking of different tile all the way up..maybe a marble with some black in it. the small glass tile scale seems off. Would love to see what you decided.
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Help with chandeliers please!

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