Kitchen Renovation for old house

5 år siden

I am about to redo the kitchen. This is an outline of the room I am working with. The pantry is walk in and the fireplace is an old cooking fire and I am hoping to include it as a “feature” of the room rather than having it built over like it is currently (though it is a great vent for the range hood!) The sink and dishwasher are currently under the window near the fireplace and the stove top at the fireplace and oven in a tower near the door.
I am at a bit of a loss with where to put to best utilise the space and not just put everything back where it was. Is this too much to want? Any helpful ideas or tips much appreciated:)

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Kate

5 år siden

Hi Divine feeling. Can you please add a floor plan with the adjacent rooms, even a sketch would help . I am also not sure how the dimensioned plan relates to your sketch. You will need to add windows and let us know sill heights of windows. Are the windows where you want sink or is the view to be ignored etc. a picture of fire place will also help. R you planning to keep pantry, it can help to be flexible with that.

cheers

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divinefeeling
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5 år siden
I will redo a sketch. Fireplace hasn’t been opened up yet, old kitchen cabinets are still in situ. Pantry is a big structure which needs to stay at this point (trying to minimise cost), a door will be added though. Window with view is being changed to a larger window, ideally (getting a builder to look Monday). Sill height will be counter top height or slightly above. Hope additional photos help in the meantime.
siriuskey
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Hi there is this anything like your kitchen, with the freestanding range or cook top, fridge and oven side by side, It could be really nice if the window next to the pantry was a door? cheers
siriuskey
5 år siden
It might be a good idea to replace the big window with a glass door and use that window to replace the smaller window, this would allow a lot more light into the kitchen. You could add a mobile island made up from whatever you wanted cheers
Kate
5 år siden
Hi Siriuskey. I’m not sure you got the existing @door in the right spot. From the cad sketch they posted, the pantry is top right, and the door is on the long wall just below pantry. Window to left and top, with fireplace bottom left, I think.

flip your drawing left to right and move door up to pantry where you have fridge.
siriuskey
5 år siden
Oops, I had the fireplace and pantry in the correct position but over looked the door, it was difficult to be exact without more info, hope you feel happy with this. cheers
divinefeeling
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5 år siden
Hope this is clearer, sorry not the best drawing. Pantry straddles both rooms, roughly half and half...
Kate
5 år siden
Thanks divinefeeling. It would be great to remove wall to casual dining and move pantry to other end of room. This all depends on your budget. Here’s another laoyout, moving internal door, in fact I would just have a wide opening or sliding door. This would work well if you later remove pantry and some internal walls to integrate the two rooms.

You need to think what you value, in terms of outlook and access.you also need to work out what you can do with the fire place. Brick chimneys can be removed. If you removed it all you could have another entry to your kitchen from that wall. So many options.
oklouise
5 år siden
what are the internal and external walls and floor made out of, what is the small gap next to the pantry used for and what is the pantry built out of?
siriuskey
5 år siden
Another thought trying to keep the chimney for cook top or as a feature as you mentioned, removing a chimney is a lot of work and I think it would be a loss to the house. You hve a choice of a free standing cooker in the fire place or a cooktop next to the sink and a wall oven next to the fire place. Changing a window for an external door with access to the covered balcony, and keeping the doorway between kitchen and casual dining in situ to save money, it could be a sliding Barn door.

Siri My revised plan and Kate's as drawn by her cheers
divinefeeling
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5 år siden
The small gap beside the pantry shouldn’t be there-an error when I was taking the measurements. Walls in the kitchen are asbestos which will be removed. Wall in living room is probably asbestos too but has a beautiful timber panelling lining the walls. The “entry room” is lined with the same timber as the outside of the house, which I think, is American Redwood. This entry room used to be just an open room until a previous owner closed it with glass windows and door. The pantry is also asbestos with deep, solid, timber shelving on all three sides. I re has been a previous attempt to remove the fireplace, I will only know definitely what is there once the asbestos is removed. I have been told by a previous owner that it was the cooking fire...
The main priorities are airflow, view and maximise utilisation of the space.
divinefeeling
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5 år siden
Oh and all for minimum $ outlay...
divinefeeling
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5 år siden
Also, the floor is currently lino over ? board, over original pine floor boards.
siriuskey
5 år siden
Asbestos only becomes a problem if you start cutting into and breaking it up, so keeping the timber lined pantry and the lovely paneled walls will not only add to the character but be a great cost saver as well. cheers
divinefeeling
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5 år siden
Thank you @Siriuskey. I like the Siri option. The door opening to the covered balcony would have to open outwards and swing from the other side or it will block the pantry door. I like the idea of a slider in the other doorway as that will give more space in the kitchen itself. I like the idea of the cooktop in the fireplace itself, hopefully this will be achievable. What about the oven up against the chimney and make a tea/coffee/toast area in the other corner?
siriuskey
5 år siden
Would it be a big problem to have the door opening back in against the pantry, how often would it be open. Hopefully you will get to have the cook top or free standing range in the old fireplace. The entry room sounds like it was an old breezeway, a Barn Style door opening into the kitchen from that would look amazing.
You may be able to have some exposed brick work, could need a bit of patching up.

Perhaps some inspiration from this lovely place

http://www.orchardkeepers.com.au/

Cheers
siriuskey
5 år siden
The wall oven I have in the other corner so as to allow for a put down space for both the cook top and oven and can also be used for coffee, it's up to you to decide how you would like your kitchen
divinefeeling
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5 år siden
Good point re put down space, I hadn’t remembered that. Also good thought re pantry and outside door :) in an ideal world it would be a slider
divinefeeling
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5 år siden
@Kate Partino I like your idea of opening up the wall, could possibly use the timber to line that bit of kitchen wall up to chimney.
divinefeeling
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5 år siden
@siriuskey understand re asbestos but tiles have to come off and bench top and cabinets.
divinefeeling
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5 år siden
Kate Partenio, apologies for misspelling
siriuskey
5 år siden
Understand, but you can most likely get away with some things being OK, fingers crossed as it's expensive to get it removed
oklouise
5 år siden
removing the asbestos will allow much easier for installing new windows and insulation and rearranging plumbing electrical but have you had a quote before starting?
divinefeeling
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5 år siden
Yes @oklouise. Quite steep, so will probably only do what is needed rather than the whole room.
Kate
5 år siden
Divinefeeling, if you have the asbestos people in, remove as much as you can for a clean slate. It will be under Lino, behind tiles etc. then you can move the electrical points and plumbing where you want them, install overhead cabinets etc. . Old house you will prob need to replace the wiring and plumbing anyway.

siri plan will allow you to later open up the wall to the living for the open plan that is so popular, great to stage costs.
PRO
Brilliant Bathrooms and Kitchens
5 år siden
You mentioned an old fireplace in your kitchen. Have a look at what we did for some clients in Brisbane. They had an old fireplace and we inserted a bespoke cocktail cabinet and drawers into the space. The chimney brickwork was cleaned up and looks great with the timber. Good luck with your project :)
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divinefeeling
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That is fantastic, I really like the unique!
Thank you @ Brilliant Bathrooms and Kitchen