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enembee

Looking for layout experience for a big Vic/Edw semi Renovation

enembee
sidste år
sidst ændret:sidste år

Hi Houzzers,

I've just moved into my dream renovation project and looking for layout experience tips/advice before I make any moves. With condemned plumbing and previous use as a commercial business, it needs a total strip out so now is the opportunity to create a layout that works!

It's a great size but long and relatively narrow at the back for the size of the house so creates a problem with flow and usable wall space for cabinetry.

The obvious would be a utility with bathroom at the back and continue through to the kitchen and rest of the house but there are a lot of bottlenecks and kitchen layout issues and this whole section of the house feels quite dark and cold. If anyone can make this work I'd love to know your thoughts/ideas/experience.





Additional space - FYI Conservatory on the plan was opened up as an outdoor shelter when we bought.

I can't afford an extension but I would consider reinstating a conservatory if it was a good solution like https://www.aliceinscandiland.com/blog/2017/03/12/how-to-extend-your-home-with-style-for-less-than-you-might-think.

I'm considering a courtyard in the side return and then a modern side conservatory at the back of the house so that we can have kitchen to diner that looks out onto the garden and doesn't compromise light to the middle of the house. I can't find any examples of anyone living like this - anyone out there done something similar? Will it work or is there a reason no one does this?

Key points - we need a substantial utility for dogs and muddy boots coming in/out, we need a downstairs toilet and we need to keep the beautiful big window in the first 'kitchen' room. I'd love doors/windows out onto the garden if it's possible as it's north west facing so currently very dark and cold.

Constraints are - There are beautiful Victorian decorative tiles in the hallway (that are definitely being kept) and then the red/white tiled floors (currently covered up by commercial rubber flooring) throughout the back of the house. We don't know what condition these are in or if they are salvageable. If they are good then it poses an issue with heating, pipes, cables etc. Also, it's in a conservation area, and we have a small reno pot but not a lot of money so we need to pick and choose now where that will be spent and then save/diy the rest.

Keen to hear any/all thoughts and ideas from you all...

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  • katlucy
    sidste år

    Would you consider the kitchen in the rear reception and dining room in the first part of the rear extension ?

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    • enembee
      Forfatter
      sidste år

      Dimensions -


    • User
      sidste år
      Sidst ændret: {last_modified_time}sidste år

      This is a great space, congratulations :)

      Is it the back that faces the North-West?

      Can you post the layout of the upper floor? If possible, I would put skylights in that narrow part at the back of the house.

      If the conservatory still has its roof, I'd consider removing it. I imagine it's blocking a lot of the light.

      I agree that what you describe is the obvious layout:



      You could do a bench with storage under that big kitchen window. The back wall could be a pantry. Fridge at bottom left, sink and dishwasher in the island, stove between the windows. You could even keep a little pass-through window where the door to the reception is.

      If it fits, the toilet could perhaps be under the stairs.

    • enembee
      Forfatter
      sidste år

      Thank you HU! - This looks like a lovely clean and confident layout! My worries are bottle-necking and movement through the kitchen. I'll try marking it out on the floor to see what the walk through space would be if there's someone standing chatting on the non-cook side of the island.


      I'll post the upstairs plan too - but a little caveat first - know that I feel a little embarrassed by the size of it - I know i'm so privileged to have bought such a beautiful big house, this is a passion project I've worked to get to and I intend to bring this building back to it's full glory whilst it's under my care and ownership.

    • enembee
      Forfatter
      sidste år
      Sidst ændret: {last_modified_time}sidste år




    • PRO
      i-architect
      sidste år

      Hi there!


      First, congratulations!


      It's exciting when you get a new home and there is so much potential, especially when it's a big dream one and I'm sure you've worked hard to get it.


      There is so much potential in this to be a beautiful home. It is similar to many of the houses I've worked on - large Victorian Villas in conservations area are exactly the kind of project I specialise in.


      There is a lot to unpick in this and you have lots of choices, which ones suit you best will depend on many factors including financial. For example - how much of a structural alteration to make, and which period features to protect. You've already started to make decisions around this, for example with the tiles in the hall, which is excellent.


      You could for example remove the chimney breast which splits the space in two between what would probably have been the original kitchen and morning room or laundry/scullery. This chimney continues up through the whole house and you could remove it entirely, freeing up space on each floor, or just to the ground floor. If you wanted to remove it externally this would require planning permission and may be tricky to get permission for depending how visible it is from the street and the particular protected characteristics of your conservation area.


      The idea of creating a courtyard could work nicely, but I wouldn't recommend building a standard conservatory - the amount of time you can use them comfortably is very limited. To build a high quality one that gives you comfortably useable space year round is costly - more so than a standard build that isn't a conservatory because glazing can be costly. Although it does depend what you want to use it for - as a mud room / utility it might work as you only tend to pass through rather than want to spend time in there enjoying the space. A thing to note about conservatories is that they can't be heated in the same way as a habitable space and comply with building regulations.


      The key to any redesign is getting a clear vision in place for how you will live there. If you want a home you can live in with ease and pleasure then it's essential to get that vision clear from the off. I have a free Design Your Home Vision Checklist that you can get here to start with: https://www.i-architect.co.uk/dyhvchecklist.html


      I'd love to help you with the redesign and the best way I can start to do that is with my Big Picture Plan - this is a sketch design package that includes helping you create a really in depth vision and then redesign to deliver your vision. It also includes support to help you double check that the design really is right for you. I'm happy to hop on a fitting call with you to talk this through and make sure its right for you if you prefer to have a chat before booking - if it's not right then I'll advise you what you could do instead. You can find out more and book the Big Picture Plan here: https://www.i-architect.co.uk/bpp.html


      Best wishes with your home redesign!


      Jane

      award winning chartered architect

      eco-home and conservation area specialist

      www.i-architect.co.uk



    • User
      sidste år
      Sidst ændret: {last_modified_time}sidste år

      There is nothing to be embarrassed about :) This looks like a wonderful house with a lot of potential - and a lot of decisions to make! I think hiring an architect would be a good investment.

      A good architect with expertise in this kind of reno can help maximize your budget, modernize yet keep/restore the character of the home, and plan future renovation stages. Having a clear plan will save you money (and headaches) in the long run - for example by getting all the plumbing done, but finishing just one bathroom for the time being.

      And if you can manage to live in the house in its current state for a few months, you will gain a clearer idea of what you like and dislike about the space.

      (Another kitchen idea:)



      EDIT: I've been in your shoes, and living in the house for 6 months first and then working with a good architect made all the difference.

    • katlucy
      sidste år

      The pantry could be a butler’s pantry with servers opposite or the pantry could be used as a bar….. a long dining table by the big windows and perhaps open the chimney for a fireplace. you could have two entrances from the hall and the ’new’ kitchen.

      The conservatory would be great filled with plants…and be a breakfast area off the ’new’ kitchen with access to the garden….lovely project to have

    • katlucy
      sidste år

      If you don't need a fornal dining room then the kitchen could be a snug/library then perhaps the conservatory becomes more important as dining off the ’new’ kitchen

    • enembee
      Forfatter
      sidste år

      I love the ideas, thank you, keep them coming! I'll draw up some options soon and post them for thoughts.

    • enembee
      Forfatter
      sidste år

      Good advice HU. We actually had a phased reno programme but when the boiler was condemned, we're now fast-tracking the whole house plan and then we can build in phases off the back of that. I want to bottom out ideas and gather input from other people experience etc now so that I can bring all of that into the plan conversations. FYI I much more comfortable with your second kitchen layout which resolves the bottle necking - thank you.

    • PRO
      House by Kate
      sidste år

      Hi,


      What a fantastic property, congratulations! Do you have any more photos you could share to help with our suggestions?


      Many thanks,

      Kate

    • PRO
      Resi Design Ltd.
      sidste år

      Hi there,


      Congratulations on your new house, it's always a proud and exciting moment when you get the keys to your own home!


      There seems to be a lot of potential in this home, and at Resi we have worked on over 6000 projects from extensions in Victorian homes, to loft conversion in maisonettes or top floor apartments. We have more than likely worked on a similar project to yours so we may be able to advise and show examples of what potentially your home could look like, if you book in a free advice call you can chat to one of our architectural experts for more help.


      Best of luck with your renovation and do not hesitate to get in touch if you need any help or advise.

      Bríd.





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