Which kitchen design would you choose?
Hi Houzzers,
Our renovation/extension plans are finalised at last, and work should start in about 6 weeks. Some of you may remember I posted a kitchen design dilemma in February. With everyone's input (especially from the fabulous oklouise and Siriuskey), I got a much clearer idea of what I wanted, and ended up adding almost a metre to the extension to make the kitchen more functional.
I thought it might be wise to seek one more round of input, as now the dimensions are finalised I have fiddled a bit with the kitchen design (that tape measure of mine has not been put out of commission yet!).
Here are 2 options:
Option 1: This option takes advantage of the full width of the kitchen (at 5.7m) and has an island of over 3m. All the tall units (pantry, fridge, wall oven) are grouped together, then the cooktop benchtop continues around the corner (so plenty of room for appliances), with a view out the window to the front of the house. It will have a very open, spacious feel, and is sure to have a bit of wow factor.
Here is a kitchen that is very similar in design and dimensions (except our sink will be in the island, as our side bench isn't long enough).
Option 2: Has the benefit of a walk-in pantry, but the kitchen width is reduced to 4.3m (compared to 5.7m) and the island bench is 2.3m (compared to 3m). The walk-in pantry does not have a door, and I haven't added a wall between the fridge and the pantry benchtop to define the pantry space, so it is more like a continuation of the kitchen on that side. The real 'pantry action' is on the front walls of the pantry which will have open shelving, as it won't be visible from outside the pantry. There will be benchtop all the way around for appliances.
Here is a kitchen layout similar to option 2, but it is probably about a metre wider than we have - you'll need to use your imaginations to close in that left wall until adjacent to the wall oven pictured, and shorten the island by about 700mm (I've added some dotted lines to help). Also, in this picture there is a wall between the fridge and pantry benchtop, which ours won't have:
So which one would you choose?
Check out the designs drawn in the context of the floorplan to see the impact on the dining/living areas (and how it affects furniture placement and circulation in the living room).
I guess it comes down to spaciousness vs walk-in pantry ...
(62) kommentarer
Nicole A
5 år sidenRelaterede diskussioner
Åbne eller lukkede køkkenskabe?
Kommentarer (8)Ja, nu er det lyse ahorn-køkken til venstre jo et vi har designet og bygget, men alligevel synes jeg spørgsmålet er svært, da det jo kommer an på, hvad man er til. Jeg synes der er en tendens til at gøre køkkener og badeværelser for lukkede og glatte, hvilket godt kan blive lidt rigeligt køligt og klinisk for min smag. På den anden side er det dels et spørgsmål om smag og behag, og hvordan man lever sig liv, og dels et spørgsmål om plads. Har man et lille køkken er behovet for enkelthed større end hvis man har rigeligt med luft omkring køkkenmøblerne. Vores køkkener sælges ofte til folk der er nogle madentusiaster, fritidsgourmet'er og den slags mennesker, som går op i at lave mad og bruge tid på det. De kan som regel godt lide at nogle af råvarerne, redskaberne m.v. er synlige, fordi det giver stemning og viser at køkkenet er et kreativt værksted :-) Men er man til det rene, helt uforstyrrede look, kan man sagtens få glatte trælåger til vores skabe også......Se flereHvilket spisebord ville i vælge?
Kommentarer (9)Udover smag og behag, hvor jeg rent designmæssigt synes bordet med den sorte bordplade er langt det smukkeste, med en lethed og elegance som det runde bord ikke har, så er der også en bæredygtighedsvinkel man kan forholde sig til, hvis det også ligger dig på sinde at værne om miljøet, inde som ude. Vi - Hansen Kitchen - anvender kun linolie uden sikkativ, da sikkativ kan være et miljø/sundhedsproblem. Det gør ganske rigtigt at olien hærder langsommere, men den hærder skam lige så godt op og er lige så modstandsdygtig. Et nyproduceret køkken - frisk fra værkstedet - bliver oliebehandlet og ville tidligere i stuetemperatur skulle hærde ca. 4 timer (med sikkativ), nu skal det hærde ca. 24 timer (uden sikkativ), så det anser vi overhovedet ikke for at problem. Vores køkkener er yderst holdbare og nemme at vedligeholde, og det vil en bordplade, der er oliebehandlet også være. Det vigtigste er, at man lader olien sidde og trænge ind i 15-30 minutter, og hvis man i den periode kan se, at der opstår tørre pletter, smørrer man ekstra på der. efter de max 30 minutter aftørres al overskydende olie fra overfladen og den skal stå og hærde/tørre op i ca. 24 timer, før man tørrer den over med en fugtig klud, hvorved træet lysner en anelse op igen. En sådan behandling kan man give træfladen, lige så ofte man synes den trænger, og kan også anvende en let slibning med fint sandpapir (korn 240-400 afhængigt af træsort m.v.), hvis nødvendigt, før oliering, og træet vil holde evigt... :-)...Se flerehelp picking a sofa
Kommentarer (2)Super nice place with lots of options! Since it’s meant to be a sofa for watching movies in, the only right option (in my opinion) would be something that allows for laying down (or at least allow you to put your feet up). I would look for extra deep couches, something with a chaiselong or matching foodrest. I don’t have any specific sofa’s in mind, but a search on google on “flydersofa” or “dyb sofa” might help you out :) I also think some color would suit the space well :) - maybe a colored sofa, or at least some colored pillows in a more “neutral” sofa. The space already have a lot of beautiful neutrals, so a colored sofa would really stand out (in a good way) - but that is something that very much comes down to personal preference :)...Se flerered brick livingroom
Kommentarer (2)Nice room! Iwould keep the red bricks, but tone down all other textures. That means replacing the wood ceiling with a clean, white seamless non-textured ceiling. +Replacing the floor tiles with either wood, concrete or epoxy (which would look amazing in this space) I would stain the loft beams a darker, richer wood color, and consider painting the window trims black - I think it would give more of a “New Yorker” loft vibe. If you absolutely hate the red bricks, you could paint them over (but keeping the texture underneath). Or plaster some of the walls and keep one or 2 as an accent wall. In any case - amazing space. Hope you do something awesome with it :)...Se flere
PROWild Bear & Co Hervey Bay
5 år sidenNicole A
5 år siden
oklouise
5 år sidenwithout the pantry there's space for a 3m island but can't help adding the wo to the other side and a fire in the grate and a few books on the shelves would help.
Nicole A thanked oklouiseNicole A
5 år sidenSidst ændret: {last_modified_time}5 år siden
PROCTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery
5 år sidenSidst ændret: {last_modified_time}5 år sidenNicole A thanked CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery- PRO
CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery
5 år sidenSidst ændret: {last_modified_time}5 år sidenNicole A thanked CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery Nicole A
5 år siden
siriuskey
5 år siden- PRO
CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery
5 år sidenHi Nicole.
Had some spare time today so here is a draft similar to what you liked as per my original design above
This is with window moved slightly to the right if possible.
Nicole A thanked CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery - PRONicole A thanked CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery
- PRO
CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery
5 år siden - PRO
CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery
5 år sidenSidst ændret: {last_modified_time}5 år siden
You could even do a drop down servery top after sink to keep room move open as per option 1. Best of both worlds!!!
Nicole A thanked CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery Nicole A
5 år sidenWow Paul, that is incredibly generous of you to do that! Thankyou so, so much! I am about to pore over your layouts now.
In the meantime, I'm uploading my (far less pretty) modification for option 2.
Instead of an L-shaped pantry, I've gone with cabinetry at each end only. Overall there is a little less bench space, but what there is is more usable because there is no corner. Plus the overall width of the pantry is reduced to just 960 (allowing for a 900 bank of drawers), which means a bigger island.
The advantage of this design for the little pantry is the window doesn't interfere with layout of the uppers (I've simply narrowed it from 1200 wide to 850 to allow for the uppers on the back wall). Also, the front side of the pantry isn't visible from the living areas, so it can have open shelves above and below the benchtop for easy access to everything without looking messy. (I didn't have room to draw the cross-section of the front wall of pantry, but hopefully you get the idea).
And now to check out Paul's variations for option 1...
- PRONicole A thanked CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery
Nicole A
5 år sidenNicole A
5 år sidenNicole A
5 år sidenThe votes are showing a preference for the design with the WIP - it seems the majority of people would choose a kitchen that is a little smaller in order to get a WIP.
What do you all think of my modification to option #2, which keeps the WIP but makes it a little smaller in order to widen the island?
It changes the WIP from an L-shape to benches on either end. It is a little narrower, which increases the width of the kitchen to allow for a bigger island (up to 2.65m). It is also shorter, so won't encroach as much on walkway circulation to living room. But It is still really functional, and has nearly twice as much benchtop and cupboard/shelves (1.9m) compared with the 1m wide cupboard-style pantry in the more open layout (option #1).
This WIP has
- on the back wall: a 600 deep x 960 wide benchtop to allow for a 900mm bank of drawers, with a set of upper cupboards above.
- on the front wall: a 450 deep x 960 wide benchtop with open shelving above and below (not visible from living areas so won't look messy even without a door)
My mixer can sit on the back bench, and the toaster/kettle/coffee maker on the front bench.
Andrea
5 år sidenHere are a couple of photos to consider. The first shows a single, larger sink, the second a nifty under sink storage idea.
Nicole A thanked Andreasiriuskey
5 år sidenNicole A
5 år sidenNicole A
5 år sidenNicole A
5 år sidenI notice my image for option 2 has been accidently deleted from my initial post. Here's a similar image that will give you the idea, although there won't be a door on pantry for mine (but again, keep in mind this one is a little wider than mine)
Hamptons Project · Mere information- PRO
CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery
5 år siden Andrea
5 år sidenUnder mount always looks more expensive, is cleaner/sleeker looking. Router grooves look like this (much nicer than a sink with draining board:
Nicole A
5 år siden- PRO
Wild Bear & Co Hervey Bay
5 år siden siriuskey
5 år sidenNicole A
5 år sidenThe votes are now neck-and-neck, but there was a strong preference for option 2 (with the WIP) up until the example image in my original post for option 2 disappeared. I wonder if the voting is being swayed by the fact that option 1 has a pretty picture but option 2 now doesn't. I'm bumping an image for option 2 again: (but again, keep in mind this one is a little wider than mine).
Hamptons Project · [More Info[(https://www.houzz.com.au/photos/hamptons-project-transitional-kitchen-brisbane-phvw-vp~36408282)
emailmarios
5 år sidenNicole A
5 år sidenSidst ændret: {last_modified_time}5 år sidenThanks marios, good advice!
I actually went with a little galley-style pantry so I could have both! - an island that's 2.6m and a pantry about 930w (with 1000 standing room front to back):
This is where we're up to:
So that window on the back right gets bricked in on Monday, with the side window (out of the shot) being replaced with the window you can see there waiting to go in. There are big sliding doors all along the wall on the left.
That right corner will be where the little pantry goes: 600d benchtop on the back with drawers below and cabinets overhead, and 450d bench on the front side with open shelving above and below.
I'll post more photos once it looks pretty!
SonaandDi Taumalolo
4 år sidenNicole A
4 år sidenSidst ændret: {last_modified_time}4 år sidenHi SonaandDi,
In case you haven't come across it, here is the link to my finished kitchen: https://www.houzz.com.au/discussions/5598603/renovation-of-our-1956-red-brick-triple-fronted-home-all-done
This layout has the potential for issues, but I tried to factor those in by noting where the fridge doors came to when fully opened.
I should have allowed a little more width for the fridge gap, as the theory didn't quite translate in practice: on the plans I allowed the minimum of 20mm either side of fridge, but ended up with only about 13mm (was not fun getting the fridge in!). So my suggestion is to make sure there is 50mm either side of fridge.
eg the fridge space is 1000mm wide for french door fridge around the 900mm mark.
Even so, my doors do open fully (vegie drawers slide out unobstructed), as the doors themselves sit forward of the nib wall on the right.
If your fridge space is wider, you won't need to sit the fridge out the full thickness of the doors, which may look more streamlined. But make sure you allow for 50mm space at the back of fridge. This will decide the depth of your nib wall. I calculated mine as 50mm plus the depth of the fridge to the start of the doors. You might prefer to make it a bit deeper, as the doors have more room to open due to the extra width of the space.It isn't annoying having the door opening over the pantry entry. It isn't often that someone wants to get to the pantry at the exact moment someone else opens the fridge. Even if that happened, you could get past if you couldn't wait:
Good luck with your renovation! Because you can't be on site, I would always factor in more wiggle room.Let me know if I can help with any more info - I could talk about this stuff all day long!
SonaandDi Taumalolo
4 år sidenNicole A
4 år siden
Reload the page to not see this specific ad anymore
CTI Kitchens & Designer Joinery